Comments on: The Church’s procedures to deal with complaints against bishops https://nzcatholic.org.nz/2019/11/04/the-churchs-procedures-to-deal-with-complaints-against-bishops/ The New Zealand National Catholic Newspaper Tue, 06 Jul 2021 06:18:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.1 By: Maria https://nzcatholic.org.nz/2019/11/04/the-churchs-procedures-to-deal-with-complaints-against-bishops/#comment-70947 Tue, 06 Jul 2021 06:18:55 +0000 https://nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=20366#comment-70947 WHat could be the worst when a priest used a woman known to him 30 years ago for his weaknesses .

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By: Maria https://nzcatholic.org.nz/2019/11/04/the-churchs-procedures-to-deal-with-complaints-against-bishops/#comment-39730 Tue, 19 Nov 2019 03:34:14 +0000 https://nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=20366#comment-39730 In reply to Bryan Parry.

Bryan: perhaps we are in the realm of hearsay, I wouldn’t know. Regardless, and particularly in view of the current situation in the world wide Church, Charles Drennan has certainly drawn the short straw by being cornered into resignation. Compare that outcome with other prelates who have been outed, with arguably more significant moral issues, who have found themselves, as a result, happily elevated into the Vatican service. Does this mean NZ has a remarkably high standard? No.

I am not shocked at what you state, just disappointed. As things go with the laws of nature, I would have been more surprised if it had been only once with a much older woman, so I guess normality counts against you these days. A public confession and ‘rending of garments’ in the pulpit would have done the job. I am so sorry for him, I really am, and I have to say I was no fan of his either.

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By: Greg https://nzcatholic.org.nz/2019/11/04/the-churchs-procedures-to-deal-with-complaints-against-bishops/#comment-39545 Sun, 17 Nov 2019 23:48:38 +0000 https://nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=20366#comment-39545 I think there needs to be some education on the 3 C words:
Celibacy – can’t marry.
Continence – no sex
Chastity – supernatural virtue related to temperance self-restraint and opposed to lust.

So, you can be celibate but both incontinent and unchaste like Theodore McCarrick or Marciel Marcial. You can be continent, celibate but unchaste while in the rectory watching pr0n on the big-screen or downtown at the bar dressed in mufti.

As to the weak logic that unchaste clerics somehow prove we must repeal clerical celibacy, please recall that marriage requires chastity-temperance also.
What woman wants to be married to an unchaste man? A man who lusts and doesn’t seek grace. What daughter wants an unchaste father? What does an unchaste man or woman model to their children?

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By: Bryan Parry https://nzcatholic.org.nz/2019/11/04/the-churchs-procedures-to-deal-with-complaints-against-bishops/#comment-38399 Sat, 09 Nov 2019 08:00:32 +0000 https://nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=20366#comment-38399 Maria: It certainly wasn’t just an opportunity for change! he broke his vow at least twice and once with a much younger woman. he used his authority or role to corner her. He breached his code of ethics badly.

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By: Maria https://nzcatholic.org.nz/2019/11/04/the-churchs-procedures-to-deal-with-complaints-against-bishops/#comment-38286 Thu, 07 Nov 2019 06:58:46 +0000 https://nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=20366#comment-38286 That is a very clear explanation. But I am more confused, by the terms of the motu proprio why was Charles Drennan removed, I mean why did he resign? I can only assume his ‘resignation’ was posited under abuse of authority but is that the same thing as ‘inappropriate relationship’? Perhaps the opportunity for change, which is the most important thing which no one should be afraid of, just presented itself.

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By: Bryan Parry https://nzcatholic.org.nz/2019/11/04/the-churchs-procedures-to-deal-with-complaints-against-bishops/#comment-37956 Tue, 05 Nov 2019 08:11:44 +0000 https://nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=20366#comment-37956 Do not call him Cardinal Dew. His name is John according to his directive.

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